The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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Thanks for posting. Seems quite a few major technical details remained to be resolved before it could have been sold. I recall reading that Tucker had workers trying to recover old Cord parts for use. With an additional 12 months of testing who knows what might have been. Any thoughts on how the many Tuckers shown in the movie were obtained? I don’t think it was an illusion.
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From Howard Kroplick:
Ken, according to IMB trivia about the film, the “Tuckers” used in the film were replicas:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096316/trivia
However, this 2008 New York Time articles states that several original Tuckers were used in the film:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/29/automobiles/collectibles/29TUCKER.html
From The 1948 Tuckers: The Cammack Collection
Looks like Bethpage farmer Peter Nibbe’s (1847-1918) place and windmill in the back, late 1908 looking southwest. The LIMP roadway being built was used in the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup and Sweepstake races, and is today located in Bethpage State Park (Central Park) where the bike path meets the curve under the power lines. The men working on the roadway further back after the curve is today’s southbound lanes on route 135. The photographer was standing on top of what’s to become the new Plainview Road bridge’s north abutment (no longer existing). Plainview Road was slightly relocated during Motor Parkway construction.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
I was at the Hershey meet last year (great weather) this year didn’t go - rain, but last year my first stop was the AACA museum where the Tucker’s where, the museum is great, almost forgot to go to the car show that Saturday. Howard thanks for the narration of what I had saw. Mark
From The 1948 Tuckers: The Cammack Collection
From Robert R:
Wonderful stuff on the Tucker, Howard.
I remember seeing my first one on display in the lobby of 30 Rock.
From The 1948 Tuckers: The Cammack Collection
I think we’re looking north (or slightly northeast) from a point between Central Avenue and Powell Avenue through an area that was known locally as Nibbe Hollow in Central Park (today’s Bethpage). Off in the distance are the farm buildings belonging to the Stymus family. The photo was probably taken around August, 1908 and this section of the LIMP was completed in time for use in the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race. A large portion of this area was utilized for construction of the Seaford-Oyster Bay Expressway.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
I have no answers but enjoyed seeing this very early picture of Long Island…
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Enjoyed the pictures and explanations above…..Thanks…
From The Incredible Vanderbilt Cup Races on Long Island: The Role of Hicksville Updated: 11/22/16
Thanks for the Tucker presentation. It brings back memories(I was 10 years old in 1948) of my father showing me a Tucker (don’t remember where this was) and trying to explain some of its features. I was especially entranced by the center headlight.
Ken Harris
From The 1948 Tuckers: The Cammack Collection
I felt very proud and excited to have rode in the Black Beast race car, with Howard Kroplick. And to think we drove on a former site of the Motor Parkway on Long Island.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
When I was a kid growing up in West Hempstead, I remember a Tucker dealership on Fulton St. in Hempstead just before where the A&S department store was built. I knew is was to be a Tucker dealership because the big Tucker sign was already installed on the facade of the building. Needless to say, that building never saw a Tucker.
Rog
From The 1948 Tuckers: The Cammack Collection
Mystery Foto #49…. The photo shows the Christopher Stymus farm on Norcross and Central Avenues looking east in what is now Bethpage. Photo taken in the summer of 1908. The 1909 and 1910 running of the Vanderbilt races ran on this section of the road.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Sept. 1908 The Peter Nibbe farmhouse in the distance looking northwest from the Bethpage Central Avenue Railroad bridge and the Nibbe Bridge in behind the trees.
Used in the 1910 Cup race.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Always loved this photo as well and instantly remembered it can be found on Page 32 of your book!
-Identify the exact location of the Mystery Foto and its orientation
Bethpage (Central Park) looking Easterly. This is the Northward turn at ‘Nibbe’s Hollow’ (Deadman’s curve #2) just before the Nibbe Framway Bridge.
-Identify the family that owned the farm buildings in the background
The William Stymus farm.
-When was this photo taken?
June/July,(probably) 1908
-Which, if any, of the Vanderbilt Cup Races used this section of the Motor Parkway?
1908 VCR
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
Growing up, my backyard boarded the 8 th precinct parking lot, which was motor parkway. As a kid, While digging for China with some friends, we dug up a motor parkway sign, which after doing some research may be a license plate! Then later growing up I ran cross country in high school, 1974. I must have ran past that concrete structure a hundred times on that cross country course wondering how and why that was there! I went on the trail recently looking for it and couldn’t find it. I can’t believe it’s gone, it was a piece of history. I had my suspicions that it was there for a purpose. Now it’s confirmed. Thank you for everyone that contributed to this article. It was first the Vanderbilt parkway, then motor parkway then part of it the lirr, now where the power lines run! ... (in bethpage between the 8th precent and the Levittown fire house.)
From Then & Now: The Botto Farmway Bridge in Bethpage State Park
I say bridge over Plainview Rd. Looking south west. Nebbe Farm.
Photo taken in the summer/fall of 1908, prior to the 1908 VCR.
From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Building the Long Island Motor Parkway Through the Stymus Farm in Bethpage
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL
From The Twelfth Annual Thanksgiving "Turkeys on the Road"
As much as I like 20’s cars, this car is beautiful! Does Wayne actually own it? I can imagine him having done the restoration; it looks perfect in the photos. If only I could afford to have him restore my Packard 243 Touring! 😊
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From Howard Kroplick:
Barry Levinson was the owner when it was shown in the Amelia Concours in March 2016. There is no confirmation that Levinson sold this car to Wayne Carini, who had restored it.
From Mystery Auto Foto #47 Solved: Definitely a 1949 Buick Roadmaster that Starred in the Film Rain Man
i think the 49 Buick is a masterpiece of design,
From Mystery Auto Foto #47 Solved: Definitely a 1949 Buick Roadmaster that Starred in the Film Rain Man
I sure hope I can make it tonight. If my friend feels up to driving me there.
From The Incredible Vanderbilt Cup Races on Long Island: The Role of Hicksville Updated: 11/22/16
From Susan Blackwell:
Easy one it is Wayne Carini, 1949 Buick Road master , from the movie “Rainman”
Dave and I had seen it at Lime Rock in September
From Mystery Auto Foto #47 Solved: Definitely a 1949 Buick Roadmaster that Starred in the Film Rain Man
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