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This was a tough one Howard. As for the first photo (A) we have Eddie Rickenbacker riding with Peter Helck. Rickenbacker was a pilot and a Vanderbilt cup driver too. Photo B Shows broadcaster Lowell Thomas. Don’t know the characters in the other three photos. As for the group shot ... it includes Rickenbacker, Lowell Thomas and actor, Robert Mongomery.
I am guessing when I say that Robert Montgomery was the host of the Pawling party. Hope I got some of this right.
From Mystery Fotos #42 Solved: A 1948 Picnic at Lowell Thomas' Home in Pawling, New York
You went to town,and then some;Dave Russo! I’m sure you would’ve went into the tunnel if possible. There must be some airflow thru the tunnel, air quality should’nt be an issue.
From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass
Howard,
Your Mustang is fantastic. I can’t wait to see it in the “flesh.” I wonder how it would have sold if Ford decided to produce it. Oh well, we’ll never know and you’ll get to enjoy it all the more.
Rog
From 99.1 PLR Radio: AJ's Car of the Day 1963 Ford Mustang III Concept Show Car
The bend towards the south in the NSP just west of Glen Cove Road is known as “Objectors’ Bend” because nearby estate owners objected to this 1925 routing, believing that it would ruin their property values. Robert Moses was eventually forced to build the parkway parallel to the Motor Parkway to Carle Place and then take a more middle route for his “northern” parkway in the segment to the Wantagh State Parkway that Howard has well documented in aerial photos. Ironically, less than a decade later, many of the same objectors lobbied for a spur through their area as this NSP segment was being built as they came to realize how the new parkway had been enhancing property values elsewhere. Moses snubbed them, happily, according to some reports. For fans of Oheka Castle, note that the 1925 routing would most likely have led to its early demise.
From 1925 Long Island Map of Queens Traffic Arteries & Proposed Highways and Parkways in Nassau & Suffolk
Are the police Nassau County, Garden City or Roosevelt Field police ?
From An Accident on the Motor Parkway in Garden City on July 8, 1931- Updated: 10/17/16
From Jerry Mintz
Very interesting that at first the proposed Northern State did not bypass Old Westbury!
From 1925 Long Island Map of Queens Traffic Arteries & Proposed Highways and Parkways in Nassau & Suffolk
The car is a Cadillac, and at least 6 or more years old at the time the photo was taken judging by the shape of the radiator shell. Noting how many people were in the car when the accident happened, they either squeezed in a 5 passenger phaeton or most likely it was a 7 passenger tourer. Hard to determine this from the mashed metal . Only two people could fit comfortably in the front seat (and that depended upon the girth of the occupants) as the bodies on the cars were narrow - I own a Packard touring car from 1930 and can state that as fact! The narrow tires and primitive breaking system of the Cadillac of that era would all contribute to the accident along with the total weight of the passengers. If the road surface was even a little damp and the car was going to fast and driver not paying attention it could have all contributed to the situation.
From An Accident on the Motor Parkway in Garden City on July 8, 1931- Updated: 10/17/16
C’mon, Howard; this isn’t like you. The photo didn’t appear from thin air. Provenance, please. Sam, III
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From Howard Kroplick I
Purchased last week from one of my favorite photo pickers. Original source was Acme Newspictures, Inc of New York City.
From An Accident on the Motor Parkway in Garden City on July 8, 1931- Updated: 10/17/16
Has anyone ID’d the crash car? The engine appears to be a V8.
From An Accident on the Motor Parkway in Garden City on July 8, 1931- Updated: 10/17/16
Also if hospital employees/patients had access to this path recently, access may not be as difficult as I predicted earlier. I was expecting a Bolt Down gate. There is hope here.
From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass
Brian, I’m hoping to hit the Creedmoor ped underpass soon (it’s become the top of the list recently). I live nearby in Valley Stream. The Brentwood High School gazeebo (possibly the original LIMP Brentwood Lodge) also continues to be hot on the list but every time I call the school I get no answer, not even a voicemail. Perhaps I’m dialing the wrong number. I just want to take a snapshot there. In any event I’ll keep you posted when I’ll be trekking out, usually it’s spur of the moment here. Will keep you posted. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass
I wouldn’t normally ask this, but I’d like to tag along with anyone to check out LIMP locations; especially if in Nassau or Queens. I reside in Lake Ronkonkoma, get the notion most of you gents live further west. My Parkinson’s symptoms keep me from driving to far from home. I can meet up anyone at a Park&Ride; somewhere near the Suffolk/Nassau border. No rush if anyone’s interested. I’ll chip in for fuel. And this is a good season for exploring. BDM
From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass
We all know the LIMP was just N/O Union Tpke at the tunnel location. But the tunnel access just N/O the LIMP ROW provides a good refrence point to possibly find any LIMP pavement, etc.
I’ll just say the obvious. This tunnel was utilized by hospital employees, patients. The Creedmoor Highway bridge that was just to the east served a similar purpose. But capable of supporting vehicles, etc.
From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass
Looking Great!
Fantastic car to display and great history !
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From Howard Kroplick:
Perry, thanks! Sorry I missed the Clor meeting.
From 99.1 PLR Radio: AJ's Car of the Day 1963 Ford Mustang III Concept Show Car
Seeing the big field in the background and maybe some airplane hanger rooftops, I’m curious as to the orientation of the car, which direction it was traveling and could it have had something to do with the curve south of Roosevelt Field that made the car turn over ? A circle and arrow overlaying the aerial photo would be awesome. The lack of shadows indicates a midday photo which makes placing the location a mystery to me. Also an in a slightly unrelated tidbit of interest the lobby at Winthrop Hospital (formerly Nassau Hospital) has 2 marble plaques on the wall reading “Nassau Hospital Erected 1900” with all the donors names from that time, reads like a who’s who of the early days of the people involved with the Motor Parkway and Roosevelt Field. Again, great stuff (except for the victims of the crash).
From An Accident on the Motor Parkway in Garden City on July 8, 1931- Updated: 10/17/16
Russell Rd or Roosevelt Airfield in the back. All four men appear to be clowning around.
From An Accident on the Motor Parkway in Garden City on July 8, 1931- Updated: 10/17/16
Be curious to know exactly where that is on the MP and what direction the direction the pic was taken…
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From Howard Kroplick:
I was wondering the very same thing- difficult to determine. There seems to be a road in the background, Meadow Brook Polo Field or the Old Westbury Golf Club.
From An Accident on the Motor Parkway in Garden City on July 8, 1931- Updated: 10/17/16
I was thinking about Dad, Shailer L Bass, putting a silicone rubber roof on his St. John home with the help of Fritz Schulz, and wanted to interview Fritz about it, and Hugh Nutting about its destruction in a hurricane. I have a cousin living on the island who knows the present owners of the house.
From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company
Nice work everyone. I need to check it out personally.
Great seeing others share the exploring bug!
From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass
Brian, you’re right on! Looking deeper at the Construction Details diagram above (the first schematic), the white railing in the photo is the temporary wooden staircase that was built at midpoint during construction. Looking further at the schematic, inside the tunnel there is a sliding door at midpoint leading to this staircase up to Union Tpke, which now raises another question. Is there a second metal grating on Union Tpke’s north sidewalk leading to this staircase? And what condition is the wood after 84 years in the underground closet? Need to pay a visit there soon.
From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass
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