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I just sent Howard some more detailed pics of object #2. There are numerical inscriptions on there: 0, 10, 20, 30, 40 at two locations in two directions each. Maybe this will help someone recognize it.

Brian—no metal detector. Not that crazy yet! I do plan to do that when I retire one day. I have several Gold Coast locations in mind to detect.

When we were digging just east of the house in the first location, we simply dug these items up. We sort of felt item #1 was nothing special, a glorified can of sorts, we left that one there on site. But item #2 was pretty unique so we took that one with hopes that it was unique in some LIMP way. It sort of looked like a trophy when we pulled it out!

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Not sure about both artifacts but the first one does resemble a 1lb propane tank in comparison to Sammy’s hand size. The second with the large set bolts as Brian noted, is to accommodate and lock a large pole/rod, that also has an adjustable gear to angle into any position as needed, also with the holed base to mount onto a pole. The closest I can come to resemblance is an over sized, adjustable flag pole bracket. Unlikely though.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

My wife grew up in Williston Park on Yale St., and the ROW was behind her back yard (also behind her aunt’s, uncle’s and great-grandmother’s house over near Sigsbee Avenue).  At that time (late 1940s-1950s), the bridge over the LIRR was still intact, and she used to use it to go visit friends in East Williston.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Interesting adventure.  Funny that when I delivered mail on Robbins Lane never thought about the east side of Roslyn Rd.  I also think that second remnant could be connected to a gate.  Good stuff.  Bob

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

I can’t help but wonder how the Stickler/Eilerstsen marriage worked out. She being solidly grounded with Colgate and he coming back from the South Pacific perhaps chasing a dream for Marjorie and him with Tucker. 

From Tucker Dealerships on Long Island in 1948 Updated: 2/20/17

What role did the Motor Parkway play in the career of Theda Bara, one of the most popular film stars of her era?  Theda Bara, then Theodosia (Goodman) DeCoppett in 1914 portrayed a gang moll in the Frank Powell directed “The Stain”.  Filming was done near Lake Ronkonkoma so I would assume the Motor Parkway was used by the crew to get there. 

Hint: Billed under the name Theodosia DeCoppett, Theda Bara made her film debut as an extra in 1914.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

Eric—after the sump heading east there is one house and then the golf course. Using Bing Maps birds eye I can see the golf cart path there but it doesn’t appear to have the extensions or be very wide. Do you have pics you can send? We might have to investigate this one.

Brian—both of the relics were found on the elevated LIMP just east of the house on Roslyn road, very deep in the weeds. I’m sure these things haven’t been touched in a very long time. There was no house at this location, ever. Or any of the portion of LIMP that is related to this post.

Sam III—-two years ago Sam (mine) and I were at this location and one of the homeowners came out and met us as well. He was quite nice however and we talked history for a bit. He knew nothing of the history of his backyard, if it is in fact his land. He didn’t discuss that, more interested in what the heck we were doing! It is fenced in on both sides and elevated. Nobody goes in here. Even the kids haven’t figured this one out yet, no beer cans were observed.

Nature has taken this great spot over but it is all there to recover should that ever be an option.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Deeply buried? I thought you and Sam just came across these objects. Metal detecting, that’s dedication. You recall my email. With those 2 bolts on the side, and the round shape; I’m envisioning a pipe entering the top. And then tightening the bolts enough to secure a pipe. Does the base have holes? If so, then bolts likely secured the base to whatever structure. The one side has a cogwheel? The opposite side has like a half cog. The cogs obviously served a purpose. I’ll try my best, but hoping more experienced eyes here can help identify.    BDM

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Great job as suburban explorers. You must be very lucky. Almost every time I’ve been to that area I get yelled at by somebody: cop, adjacent property owner, or random dog walker.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Film director Frank Powell, while working for Pathe Freres, was filming “The Stain”, most of which was being shot at a rented studio in Fort Lee, NJ. The “on location” or exterior shots for the film were done at the Petit Trianon, the eastern terminus of the LIMP. Although she had done some stage work, “The Stain” was Theda Bara’s (real name Theodosia Goodman) first film. She had been using the stage name Theodosia DeCoppett at the time.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

Howard,
I grew up in West Hempstead.  I remember, on Fulton Ave. in Hempstead, there was a building that was supposed to be a Tucker dealership.  The Tucker sign was already mounted on the building’s facade.  To my knowledge, they never obtained a Tucker automobile.  I believe the sign was a neon sign, but I’m not sure.
I wish I could give you more info, but that’s as far as my memory goes.
Rog

From Tucker Dealerships on Long Island in 1948 Updated: 2/20/17

Dave and Sammy were incredibly persistent in uncovering remnants of the LIMP.  Congrats to them both.
Rog

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

“The Stain”, shot in :Lake Ronkonkoma - I assume there is a scene (possibly a chase) going in or out on LI on the LIMP, or at Petit Trianon,  but can’t find a print.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

The only thing I could find was her debut movie ‘The Stain’ in 1914 was filmed in and around Lake Ronkonkoma, most likely on portions of the LIMP and Petit Trianon.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

1179 County Road 58, Riverhead - Sleepy’s today - <http://sbiii.com/autopix /tuckeriv.jpg> - whatcha t’ink?  Sam, III

From Tucker Dealerships on Long Island in 1948 Updated: 2/20/17

Great find; thanks, Howard,m for sharing!  May I please sneak in my on-going plea for one of your ever-increasing circle of readers to help find a missing similar privately-published WKV, Jr., book(let), the heavily-illustrated one he had done about the construction of the LIMP, <http://sbiii.com/limpkwy0.html#limpbklt>?  Sam, III

From William K. Vanderbilt Jr.'s 1937 Book "Flying Lanes"

That one pc you are holding may have been for a gate at the entrance???

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

You know I’ve been thinking about the 2nd apparatus, Dave. The first piece looks like a rusted propane tank for a Coleman camping stove?

Did you and Sam find these near the area where it looks like a house was demolished? Frank and I were in this area where the driveway leads to the Water District last Fall. I remember a house was there in the past ( Small basketball court ).

Lots of eyes here, someone must know what the 2nd apparatus is.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Hate to be a spoil-sport but I remember a blistering lecture on private property delivered in 1999 so by a very-irate homeowner of the north side of Robbins Drive who claimed that he and his neighbors had BOUGHT the RoW to extend their back yards.  Other than that caveat, nothing seems to have changed in there in all these years; for 1999, see <http://sbiii.com/limpkwy2.html#RoslynRd>!  Thanks again, Sam and Dave!  Sam, III (the much older one)

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

This was a great find. Very exciting to realize the full LIMP remains under this brush.

Two questions:

1) This road that leads to the water station with the posts lining it….do we think this might have been an entrance/exit ramp? Or was this made after just to access the water station? It just seems odd that the posts align this road perfectly.

2) this portion of the LIMP, who do we think owns this property? Would this just be part of the backyard of those that live to the south of this? Would this be part of the water station property?

Brian I await you analysis of the mystery pieces. I can tell you they were deeply buried. The power lines are not directly above this location so I’m actually hoping you don’t know what this is and it could be something good!

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road