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Tough mystery, with the help of Old Man Winter himself. Definitely a John Russell Pope design lodge. So I have 6 choices with one other clue. The black/brown painted stripes under the porte cochere may give it away as the Bethpage Lodge. If true, we’re facing east and the Motor Parkway is off the photo just to the right. Also unseen to the right is the utility pole that once powered the lodge, and the Round Swamp Road parkway bridge. The lodge’s driveway for toll collector’s use should be directly behind the lodge in thIs view, also unseen and blanketed by the snow.  Photo taken in the early ‘40s based on the parked car. This is just after the LIMP closed in ‘38, as all the lodge’s signs have been removed from the bricks holding up the porte cochere.  Toll collectors Ida and Louis Damiano are inside hugging, trying to keep each other warm.  Waiting veeery patiently for this week’s answer. LET’S GO, HURRY UP!!

From Mystery Snowy Foto #10 Solved: The Great Neck Lodge in Lake Success Circa 1940 Update:3/14/17

I think that’s one of John Russell Pope’s second group of three “sister” lodges (Great Neck, Roslyn, & Garden City) since it has a center chimney. The design of the porte-cochere is different from Roslyn & G.C. so this must be Great Neck. The date is after 1938 since the “Great Neck” sign is absent yet the lodge is still in great shape and the car looks somewhat like a late 1930’s model so I’ll go with a date of 1940.

From Mystery Snowy Foto #10 Solved: The Great Neck Lodge in Lake Success Circa 1940 Update:3/14/17

I think it’s the Great Neck Lodge at Lake Success sometime after LIMP closed, swinging post barricades don’t seem to be in place & parked car, 1940s?  If so, the camera would be looking northeast from on or near LIMP across from the kiosk east of the Lakeville Rd bridge. The main clue for me is the steep upward hill behind (pic left) the lodge.
If it is the Great Neck Lodge, then it’s 1 of the half dozen or so designed by architect John Russell Pope.

From Mystery Snowy Foto #10 Solved: The Great Neck Lodge in Lake Success Circa 1940 Update:3/14/17

My guess is the Great Neck Lodge, designed by John Russell Pope. The chimney is thru the center of the roof and has a nice brick portico, unlike Massapequa, Meadowbrook and Bethpage where the chimneys are on the side. Garden city has a center chimney but it has a wood portico. The year looks like the early to late 40’ s, due to the modern looking car in the driveway, and the overgrowth of nature overtaking the roadway.

From Mystery Snowy Foto #10 Solved: The Great Neck Lodge in Lake Success Circa 1940 Update:3/14/17

I just lived watching this..and the history of Long Island…until I heard then came of Jesus and God being degraded into curses…PLEASE don’t do this…this is much needed history of our Island…but please let us respect the name so many people hold so dearly….
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Howard Kroplick
Gerry, I must have missed this section. Where is it in the film?

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

just got finished watching this, enjoyed it very much, very well done and to the point, covered just about everything, even more than what I heard from you Howard, not saying that you didn’t do a good job, this was a little more detailed to the upcoming of the LIMP and what Robert Mosses did at the end of the story.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

Well done, Mr. Romano. I learned facts that I wasn’t aware of before. Do remember an older gentleman I used to work with referred the LIMP as “Rumrunners Rd”. Thought he was just pulling my leg, but it was true.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

Hello all. The map/sketch that I submitted to Howard that he posted here is probably not the location of the Garden City Coal and Wood Yard. I searched for the location of this yard again via “nyshistoricnewspapers.org”, Nassau County. Found a page within “The Garden City News” year 1923. An advertisement for “The Garden City Coal Co.” is displayed as #2 Franklin Ave (next to Porrier’s Corner). I believe this is the actual location of the Yard.

Then I had to search Porrier’s Corner on Howard’s site here. The search led me to a past blog “Mystery Photo#15,  4/13/15. Art Kleiner provided some nice old aerial views of Porrier’s Corner within that blog. Thanks Art, you always come through.
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_15_can_you_identify_this_vanderbilt_cup_race_team

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: Hubert LeBlon & Albert Clement Jr. at the 1906 Weigh-In at Garden City

Thank You. More please.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

Really enjoyed this!  Have lived in Smithtown my whole life so knew some of the story but loved learning even more.  Well done! Would like to see the rest.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

Love it, very enjoyable to watch. I’ve been interested in LIMP for years, after realizing I’ve literally lived next to it for almost 20 years. First when I lived on Roslyn Road in Mineola and now that I live off Salisbury Park Dr in Levittown.
Great job, can’t wait to see more.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

Hi Howard:

    If Dean needs any further assistance with information and furtherance of any of my LIMP photos, I am very available to him.

    My Best Regards,  Cordially,  Ron Ridolph

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

I believe #9 is from mid 1930’s . Lived on 28-Evelyn Ave[3rd st.from Ellison ave going west]  from Dec.1950 to Nov.1980. We had 2 hangers right off Old
Country rd. That were knocked down so Orbach’s and Fortunoff’s could be built. Remember when Old Country Road was widened it was a cool area to grow up in.Lots of good memories, How about Murray the K’s and Space World up in those old hangers by the parkway exit.

From Mystery Foto #9 Solved: An Aerial Looking East Over Roosevelt Field. Circa 1952

Howard,
Congratulation and Happy Anniversary and thank you for your website. Any plans for your BIG? 10th anniversary next year, hopefully? Mark

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com: Happy 9th Anniversary!

There were multiple stairs all over the back, and front, of this property. Sending Howard an updated map including the step’s location and size dimensions. This update was made possible by childhood resident Mr. DeStefani. A later update will include locations of all remnants that remain on the site today.

From Femenias' Findings:Finding Petit Trianon, the Annex & the Petit Trianon's Lake Stairway Updated 3/12

On my last visit to the Petite Trianon lower cement block wall topped with bricks, i was able to determine that those bricks were made by Nassau brick. Nassau brick first produced bricks in 1936. This could suggest a later renovation during the period when Dan Whalen was the operator of the Trianon.  Bob DeStefani, I would love to see a diagram drawn by you of where those features were in the Trianon. Your actual kmowledge of the Trianon seems obvious.

From Femenias' Findings:Finding Petit Trianon, the Annex & the Petit Trianon's Lake Stairway Updated 3/12

Two or the Long Island Automobile Club signs were 12 in by 20 inch. These were the signs with 3 towns listed. One he’d the towns: Locust Valley, Glen Cove, and Bayville. The other had Locust Valley, Glen Cove, and Lattingtown on it.

From The Oldest Porcelain Road Signs in the United States Posted by the Long Island Automobile Club

TO MICHAEL APPICE The company was Arma, a munition contractor. They manufactured bomb casings in the building during the Vietnam war.  Al Velocci              

From Mystery Foto #9 Solved: An Aerial Looking East Over Roosevelt Field. Circa 1952

Howard,
Can’t say it enough and must chime in with everyone else,  CONGRATULATIONS! Can’t believe it’s been this long already! There’s no way to quantify all that you do in a few sentences, of harder still, thank you for all you do with a few words. Keeping us all educated and riveted at the same time is no easy task, but one you do in spades! You’ve created an incredible network of some really great, like-minded people who love learning, repeating and preserving our Long Island history. Along with many of us here, proud to be a LIMPPS 0member and supporter! Looking forward to the future with our past…
-Greg and Dee

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com: Happy 9th Anniversary!

Can’t believe there’s no comments here! I’m glad a ghost never came across my path. You should present this happening to one of the Paranormal Networks on TV! As much fun you and your buds had in there, maybe both of you witnessing the waiter was a sign to take a break for a while. Thanks for sharing your remembrances, Mr. DeStefani; Part 1 and 2.

From An Insider's Look into the Petit Trianon Part II: The Ghost of Petit Trianon