The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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That interior is high Victorian; exceedingly unlikely to be Pope’s 1910-11 work. Just compare the pix to those on your own blogs on the Petit Trianon - vastly different style. Pope’s was Deco-cum-Moderne. Sam III
From Was Theda Bara's Film Debut Shot in Petit Trianon in Lake Ronkonkoma?
Foto #21 location is in Bethpage State Park.
From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Long island Motor Parkway Historic Site Kiosk in Bethpage State Park
Thanks for the presentation ( Three Long Island Clubs and Three Tuckers Visit Tucker ‘48 #1044 at Waterfront at Roslyn). Really enjoyed it!
From Three Long Island Clubs and Three Tuckers Visit Tucker 1044 at Waterfront at Roslyn
I don’t recall any interior doors with frosted glass or the exposed stud like trim on the walls.
From Was Theda Bara's Film Debut Shot in Petit Trianon in Lake Ronkonkoma?
why was / is there a poll about who thinks there should be a marker placed at the site of Curtiss FIeld? (And why can’t I find the tally and the percentage of yes and no votes? You see, thee already is a marker at the site of Curtiss Field. It’s in front of the Home Depot in Green Acres Shopping Center in Valley Stream. It’s been there for a few years, thanx to the application to the Town of Hempstead by a former Pres. of the Valley STream Historical Society.
From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Long island Motor Parkway Historic Site Kiosk in Bethpage State Park
Seventh Street, Garden City, by the relocated Garden City Toll Lodge
From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Long island Motor Parkway Historic Site Kiosk in Bethpage State Park
Amazing ! What next, Howard?
Your curiosity keeps us all well-
Fortified with new discoveries.
From Was Theda Bara's Film Debut Shot in Petit Trianon in Lake Ronkonkoma?
Mystery Foto #21… Since my research came up empty I will go back to guessing. The Kiosk in the photo is at Bethpage State Park near where the LIMP once carried traffic way back when. Signage placed there by Sam Russo, perhaps. The primary source of info in these signs could have been Howard K and Sam Russo.
Is it possible that the wooden stakes at the base of the sign are old LIMP fence posts?
From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Long island Motor Parkway Historic Site Kiosk in Bethpage State Park
Where exactly is the location for this kiosk?
-at the entrance to the Bethpage Bikeway next to the entrance of the parking lot at Bethpage State Park
Who placed the kiosk at this location? Why?
-NYS Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation due to the LIMP running through the park with portions being bike paths.
Who was the primary source for the information on the Long island Motor Parkway and Vanderbilt Cup Races?
-I have no idea who would possibly have THAT much knowledge of The Motor Parkway. This one is a mystery to me!
From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Long island Motor Parkway Historic Site Kiosk in Bethpage State Park
We’ve been to Simeone; well worth the trip!
From Antique Automobile: 1907 Renault Vanderbilt Racer
My best guess is Bethpage State Park. Near the North Entrance Parking lot after paying toll. Having been in park in a.while
but the park is hosting a large part of the trail and this is definitely a nys park land. Aw
From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Long island Motor Parkway Historic Site Kiosk in Bethpage State Park
Franny Lew. Nice. Queens lingo.
As a Westbury boy it was interesting to me that Howard tells me he found this picture at the Westbury library. Wonder how it got there. Wonder where this sign is now!
From The Western Terminus Entrance to the Long Island Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows, Queens, Circa 1935
I am going to say Hidden Pond Park. It touches the LIMP ROW, but I do not know why it is here.
From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Long island Motor Parkway Historic Site Kiosk in Bethpage State Park
Question….The LIMP was 16 ft in width after Bethpage Lodge? Or just at a certain point in the town of Bethpage?
From The Western Terminus Entrance to the Long Island Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows, Queens, Circa 1935
There is an historical marker near there by the pedestrian overpass. St Francis Prep HS is on the southwest corner of Franny Lew and Horace Harding Expressway. I live right on the opposite side, on the westbound HHE. I’ve seen photos from the 1940s before the Clearview Expy and LIE where Horace Harding is actually a boulevard.
From The Western Terminus Entrance to the Long Island Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows, Queens, Circa 1935
I missed the location! Drats! Shame on me!
From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23
From Ariejan Bos:
The Friday mystery was a bit of a challenge this time. This is what I could find, so I’m curious how close I am 😊
The cars are parked in front of Deepdale Estate, built in 1902 for William K. Vanderbilt Jr. The moment of the photo must be somewhere early 1905: the second car is William Vanderbilt’s 90 HP Mercedes still in 1905 Ormond-Daytona racing trim. Although it was the same car in which he set several records at the 1904 Ormond-Daytona meet, he was not as successful in 1905 and didn’t win a race. According to The Motor World ‘his star was in descendency’.
The other cars from right to left: possibly a circa 1904 Mercedes coupe (or limousine: in these early years both names were used for this model); next two identical cars which could be 1904 De Dietrich’s; in the distance probably a 1904 Pope-Toledo with its characteristic body shape. Although William Vanderbilt bought a 40 HP De Dietrich during the summer of 1905, it can’t be one of the cars on the photo as this new type had a honeycomb radiator.
I have no idea about the meeting taking place, but it could be related of course to the Vanderbilt Cup races: all makes on the photo participated in the 1904 as well as the 1905 (and 1906) races.
Best wishes,
Ariejan
From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23
Unsure about this one and had a very busy weekend that kept me away from researching so I’ll just go off the cuff. (Thanks again for Sunday Howard!)
This looks to be Willie K’s Deepdale mansion in Lake Success. In fact, Willie K appears to be all the way in the background walking on the left, but the resolution isn’t good enough to confirm.
The only recognizable car without looking it up would be Willie K’s Ormond-Daytona Beach Races Mercedes (2nd from the right) which would also help dating this photo at 1905/06.
From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23
Howard,
Thank you for bringing the Tucker out for the world to see last Saturday. Many people who saw the car may not have realized what a rare opportunity to see a real Tucker is, especially when presented to them in their own back yard and free of charge! Yes, a few really do exist - they’re not just props from a movie!
Thank you again for such a wonderful automotive opportunity.
See you soon… Ernie :>)
From Highlights from the 2017 Newsday Field of WheelsUpdated: May 21, 2017
The location of the meeting was at William K. Vanderbilt"s Deepdale mansion. The time of photo I believe is between 1904 and 1908. The meeting was held due to the Vanderbilt Cup races or the cup race on the new parkway. The race car is that of Willie K’s 1903/04 90 HP Mercedes. The car was raced at Ormond Beach, Florida by Willie K on 1/27/1904 where he received the speed record at the time. The vehicle on the right of the Mercedes was most likely Willie K’s support /tow vehicle due to the #1 painted on the right side. This is the same number of his Mercedes when he raced at Ormond.
From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23
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