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May 23 2017 Art K. 11:19 AM

I missed the location! Drats!  Shame on me!

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 22 2017 Howard Kroplick 6:04 PM

From Ariejan Bos:

The Friday mystery was a bit of a challenge this time. This is what I could find, so I’m curious how close I am grin

The cars are parked in front of Deepdale Estate, built in 1902 for William K. Vanderbilt Jr. The moment of the photo must be somewhere early 1905: the second car is William Vanderbilt’s 90 HP Mercedes still in 1905 Ormond-Daytona racing trim. Although it was the same car in which he set several records at the 1904 Ormond-Daytona meet, he was not as successful in 1905 and didn’t win a race. According to The Motor World ‘his star was in descendency’.

The other cars from right to left: possibly a circa 1904 Mercedes coupe (or limousine: in these early years both names were used for this model); next two identical cars which could be 1904 De Dietrich’s; in the distance probably a 1904 Pope-Toledo with its characteristic body shape. Although William Vanderbilt bought a 40 HP De Dietrich during the summer of 1905, it can’t be one of the cars on the photo as this new type had a honeycomb radiator.
I have no idea about the meeting taking place, but it could be related of course to the Vanderbilt Cup races: all makes on the photo participated in the 1904 as well as the 1905 (and 1906) races.
Best wishes,
Ariejan

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 22 2017 Greg O. 5:44 PM

Unsure about this one and had a very busy weekend that kept me away from researching so I’ll just go off the cuff. (Thanks again for Sunday Howard!)

This looks to be Willie K’s Deepdale mansion in Lake Success. In fact, Willie K appears to be all the way in the background walking on the left, but the resolution isn’t good enough to confirm.
The only recognizable car without looking it up would be Willie K’s Ormond-Daytona Beach Races Mercedes (2nd from the right) which would also help dating this photo at 1905/06.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 22 2017 Ernie Finamore 4:00 PM

Howard,

Thank you for bringing the Tucker out for the world to see last Saturday. Many people who saw the car may not have realized what a rare opportunity to see a real Tucker is, especially when presented to them in their own back yard and free of charge! Yes, a few really do exist - they’re not just props from a movie!

Thank you again for such a wonderful automotive opportunity.
See you soon… Ernie :>)

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May 22 2017 Frank Mendyk 1:28 PM

The location of the meeting was at William K. Vanderbilt"s Deepdale mansion.  The time of photo I believe is between 1904 and 1908.  The meeting was held due to the Vanderbilt Cup races or the cup race on the new parkway.  The race car is that of Willie K’s 1903/04 90 HP Mercedes.  The car was raced at Ormond Beach, Florida by Willie K on 1/27/1904 where he received the speed record at the time.  The vehicle on the right of the Mercedes was most likely Willie K’s support /tow vehicle due to the #1 painted on the right side.  This is the same number of his Mercedes when he raced at Ormond.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 21 2017 Steve Lucas 9:02 PM

This meeting was held at “Deepdale”, the estate of the founder of the Vanderbilt Cup Races and builder of the Long Island Motor Parkway, William K. Vanderbilt, Jr. The light colored racer facing away from the camera could be Willie K.‘s 1905 Mercedes that he used in the 1905 Ormond-Daytona Races. If that’s true, then I’ll date the photo as 1905. Maybe the meeting is to discuss plans for that year’s Vanderbilt Cup Race.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 21 2017 Art K. 7:33 AM

Garden City Hotel which served as the headquarters of the Vanderbilt Cup Races.
That’s Willie K’s 1905 90 hp Mercedes with the oversized shield over the dashboard.
Other vehicles might have been owned by Foxhall Keene, Robert Graves and John B. Warden of the German race team who were at the hotel for a redrawing of the race order. 
Willie raced his Mercedes in the 1905 Ormand Beach as #1.
Photo taken in 1905 as that’s when the redrawing took place. 

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 21 2017 Karen 12:43 AM

I believe the cars are lined up in front of the Garden City Hotel.  I think that the board meetings of the Vanderbilt Cup Races were held there.  I can’t say I know much about the cars. 
Sorry I missed the car show today. 

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 21 2017 S. Berliner, III 12:33 AM

Forgot to ask - is it known to whom this particular car was originally sold?  Sam, III
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Howard Kroplick I
Sam III, I believe no one has a record of the original owner.

From Antique Automobile: 1907 Renault Vanderbilt Racer

May 21 2017 S. Berliner, III 12:27 AM

I could swear each spark(ing) plug is bigger than a piston in my FIAT 500!  Waterman and Gibson also saved the 1865 Dudgeon steam wagon, <http://sbiii.com/dudgeon.html> et seq., now in the Smithsonian.  Sam, III

From Antique Automobile: 1907 Renault Vanderbilt Racer

May 20 2017 Steven Vilardi 11:35 PM

Was this Renault from Harry Verity’s collection?

From Antique Automobile: 1907 Renault Vanderbilt Racer

May 20 2017 Steven Vilardi 11:34 PM

I live in east rockaway, Nassau County, but my boat is in brewers glen cove. I will be checking it tomorrow morning i hope you do not mind me stopping by for a while. It is not often one sees a pack (3) of Tuckers!

To fit in I will drive my 1991 Buick that my late aunt Iris gave to me before she became ill.

Please do not forget the other Curtis Field former home of the 99ers and frequently visited by Charles Lindberg and Emilia Airhart. Most of the property is now known as Green Acres.

From Antique Automobile: 1907 Renault Vanderbilt Racer

May 18 2017 Joe Oesterle 11:58 PM

Garden City Hotel.  Immediately following the 1906 Race.  Willie K is fed up, wants to build his own raceway.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved:A 1905 Meeting at William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Deepdale Estate Updated: 5/23

May 18 2017 Ken Wiebke 12:20 PM

Warm up The Black Beast, close off the Motor Parkway’s remnants and show that Renault who’s boss!  Some of the myriad L I car clubs might consider the Simeone Foundation Automotive Museum in Philadelphia as a destination, It’s better than wearing out canvas chairs in hot parking lots…

From Antique Automobile: 1907 Renault Vanderbilt Racer

May 17 2017 Brian D McCarthy 10:08 PM

Does anyone know if #185 Little Neck Rd ( Directly opposite side of the rd ) is/was associated with the Museum/Estate?

When viewing an aerial of this location, there’s a well paved path to the former Hangar. Is the hangar “open” for museum visitors? I don’t remember walking down there 7 yrs ago.
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Howard Kroplick

Brian, it was part of the estate including a farm and the superintendent’s residence. The hangar has been abandoned for years and closed to the public.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: An Aerial View of William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Eagle's Nest Estate

May 16 2017 Al Velocci 7:52 PM

The golf course had only six holes. You went around three times. Some of the holes had alternative tee boxes giving the golfer a different look and yardages. In the 1990s there was a discussion about re-opening the course as a fund raiser. Al Velocci

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: An Aerial View of William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Eagle's Nest Estate

May 16 2017 Brian D McCarthy 12:07 AM

My family and I visited here around 7 yrs ago ( Cub Scout Outing ). I think we LIMPERS should visit here as a group in the near future.

Howard and Al…. Do both of you still volunteer at the museum here?

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: An Aerial View of William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Eagle's Nest Estate

May 15 2017 Greg O. 11:31 PM

Howard,
Looking at the mystery photo again and I’m realizing I was mistaken and the memorial wing has yet to be built. I now certainly agree with the 1930 guess, but didn’t the memorial wing for Vanderbilt’s son pre-date the seaplane hangar by two years being built in 1933 and the hangar in ‘35?

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: An Aerial View of William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Eagle's Nest Estate

May 15 2017 Dick Gorman 8:00 PM

Mystery Foto# 19… This photo shows the William K. Vanderbilt mansion known as Eagle’s Nest. It is located in Centerport, NY. Willy K founded the Vanderbilt Cup races and built the LIMP. The sports played there might be Polo and Tennis??? The William K. Vanderbuilt Museum with the Planetarium currently occupies the estate. I believe that the TBS series recently filmed there is called “Nick and Nicky”.
Date unknown but it seems to be way back when crops were grown on the grounds.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: An Aerial View of William K. Vanderbilt, Jr.'s Eagle's Nest Estate

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