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Dec 11 2018 S. Berliner, III 12:27 AM

O.K., folks; I KNEW I’d be embarrassed but, if Liberty was on Motor Avenue, then what was the factory I describe on Conklin?  It was there well into ca. 1960-70 and I always “:knew” it as Liberty.  With all the aero and historical power amassed for this thread, SOMEONE must know!  Looks like the ruins are still there; satellite view at <http://sbiii.com/histpix/libertyx.jpg>.  New thread?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 Brian D McCarthy 11:31 PM

Was the date of this image considered part of the mystery? Or is the image captioned with a date?

January 1918 according to Richard

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 frank femenias 10:38 PM

Fantastic responses here on the Motor Parkway! Amazing to find many still attached to this roadway. Please share your visions on this historic highway!

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 Bill Zimmer 5:06 PM

Does anyone know what happened to the painting done for Esquire and was more than one done?

From A Salute to the Mets & Mystery Foto #44 Solved: A Gift to George Robertson From Peter Helck

Dec 10 2018 Mitch Hackett 4:13 PM

My guess is Republic Aviation, route 110, from a small plane?  Best I can do.  Happy holidays Howard!

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 Mitch Hackett 4:08 PM

Nice remembrance Howard.

From Kroplick Diaries: A Tribute to President George H.W. Bush

Dec 10 2018 Brian D McCarthy 3:55 PM

*Location/Orientation:  East Garden City viewing basically south.

*Historic Sites/Structures:  Curtiss Engineering Corp, Camp Mills, Garden City Toll Lodge, and Curtiss Field.

*Existing Structures of Significance:  Curtiss Corp structures, Garden City Toll Lodge.

*LIMP structures:  Garden City Toll Lodge ( no porte cochere ). Motor Parkway Office ( General Manager’s Office is yet to be ).

*Road w/array of trees:  Stewart Ave.

*Month & Year of image/ Reasoning:  Pre - 1929. Camp Mills 1917 thru 1921+, Curtiss Corp. est 1918, Field named Curtiss 1920 thru 1929. There’s a single building to the east of the cluster of buildings within Curtiss Field. This single building isn’t apparent in the 1925 and 1929 images of this location. Still have to guess:  Winter of 1924 is my answer

*Location Of Photographer: Atop Water Tower within Curtiss Field.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 Joe Oesterle 1:06 PM

The old WWI hospital, near Camp Mills in Garden City, south of Old Country Rd.  Perhaps the picture was taken from a water tower?
-joe o

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 Joe Oesterle 1:02 PM

How much of this bridge is possibly still buried under the ground?

From Surveyor Clinton Robertson Photo Album: The Old Country Road Motor Parkway Bridge

Dec 10 2018 Art Kleiner 12:47 PM

Another great piece of history/memorabilia, Howard. 

Thanks for sharing.

From Updated: The 1940 Membership of the Long Island Aviation Club

Dec 10 2018 Tim Ivers 11:09 AM

Looking south across Curtiss Field .
The Garden City Lodge visible in center.
Treed roadway is Stewart Avenue
Smokestack and adjacent buildings were the Curtiss Aircraft complex (buildings still exist)
Looks to be snow on rooftops; estimated date February 1931.
Photo may have been taken from observation tower south of Old Country Road.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 Roger 11:07 AM

They look like WW1 Army Barrack’s

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 frank femenias 10:57 AM

Curtiss Airfield (Roosevelt Airfield) looking south, East Garden City. This photo is about midway between Vanderbilt Court and Old Country Road. Clinton Rd just off to the right of photo. Clinton Road Motor Parkway bridge also just to the right. Motor Parkway roadway is beginning its ascent towards the bridge at ¾ top right. Historic sites/structures could be 1: Garden City Motor Parkway Lodge (Moved to 7th St, Garden City, now GC Chamber of Commerce building/museum), 2: Motor Parkway Supt’s house on Vanderbilt Court (Still there!), 3: Curtiss Engineering Corp/Smokestack (Both structures still there), 4:  Future Roosevelt Airfield (still there today as Roosevelt Field, New York State’s largest shopping mall with 2,400,000 sq.ft. of retail floor area), also home of Hangar 16, Colonel Lindbergh’s “Spirit of St. Louis” airplane storage for his historic 1927 transatlantic solo flight. Hangar 16 in the photo would be located behind about 1900ft. (0.36 mi.), on the corner of Clinton Rd and Old Country Rd. I believe all the Curtiss Airfield buildings shown have been replaced.

Tree-lined Stewart Avenue in the distance (Still there!).

Photo date is approx Nov-Mar, about 1927, during this configuration of buildings at Curtiss.

Photographer could be on top of an observation tower. Attaching a 1927 Curtiss map with possible tower. 

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 10 2018 mark schaier 10:18 AM

Thank you Walt for your comment about Mr. Bush, so true!

From Kroplick Diaries: A Tribute to President George H.W. Bush

Dec 09 2018 Howard Kroplick 10:55 PM

Updated bios of more members based on below comments.

From Updated: The 1940 Membership of the Long Island Aviation Club

Dec 09 2018 S. Berliner, III 6:38 PM

Another flat forehead moment!  That factory and powerhouse sure look like the old Liberty Aircraft plant north of Conklin between Broadhollow/110 and New Highway, up against the LIRR in Pinelawn - except that Liberty may have been on Motor Avenue in Farmingdale (oh, HELP!), neither of which is particularly close to the LIMP.  Sam, III

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Dec 09 2018 S. Berliner, III 6:08 PM

You whizzed right by Roger W(olff/olfe), Kahn (noted jazz musician and aviator, Otto’s son), Wallis Bird (recent posts), and Jackie Cochrane (founder of the WASPs), Robert L(ion). Gardiner (Island - “Lord of the Manor”), Grover Loeing (“father” of Grumman A/C), William L. Mitchell (GM Design VP), and Gar Wood (mahogany speedboats), not to mention a wonderfully-apt Mr. “Vroom”!  Sam, III
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Sam III, great catches!

From Updated: The 1940 Membership of the Long Island Aviation Club

Dec 09 2018 Steve Lucas 5:39 PM

We are looking south over East Garden City with Clinton Road just out of the frame to the right. In the foreground is Curtiss Field with the LIMP, Garden City Lodge, and General Manager’s office behind it. Slightly further south is the Curtiss Engineering complex of buildings. Some of the Curtiss buildings still exist today, along with the office (now a residence) and the lodge (moved to different site). The road at the top of the photo is Stewart Avenue. The date of the photo is probably November / December, 1929 since there’s snow on the ground, the larger General Manager’s office has been constructed but the porte-cochere has not yet been added to the lodge. The photographer probably climbed up the water tower at Curtiss Field for this amazing photo.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 09 2018 Greg O. 2:49 PM

-What is the location and orientation of the photographer?
Looking South over Hazelhurst/Roosevelt Field.

-Identify the four historic sites/buildings in the Mystery Foto.
Curtiss Engineering, Hazelhurst Field, Camp Mills, Mitchel Field

-Which buildings still exist today?
Most of Curtiss Engineering’s buildings, The Garden City Lodge exists as the Chamber of Commerce at a different location, and the LIMP managers office is still there.

-Which Motor Parkway structure(s) are in the photo?
Garden City Lodge and Manager’s office.

-Identify the road surrounded by the array of trees seen across the top of the photo?
Stewart Ave.

-What month and year was this photo taken? Provide a rationale.
Purely a guess, but I’d say winter of 1920ish judging by buildings and lone car.

-Kudos question: How was the photographer able to take this photo?
From the top of the Hazelhurst water tower.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved:Hazelhurst Field, Garden City Lodge,Curtiss Engineering & Camp Mills in 1918

Dec 09 2018 George philippides 12:35 PM

Location/Orientation: Over Roosevelt field near intersection of Clinton and Old Country Road ( I grew up one block from that intersection) looking south.
4 historic sites include the Clinton st bridge (gone), Curtiss Engineering building (there), Garden City Lodge(moved to 7th street GC) and General Managers office (still there)
Tree lined road on top of photo is Stewart Avenue.
Month and year- guessing a winter month, say December, some time in late 1920s early 1930s judging from building development.
Usually these photos are aerial photos, but this one looks a bit low.
Might have been taken from the water tower that used to be on Clinton, near the Old Country road intersection.

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