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May 21 2019 frank femenias 6:53 PM

Whoops, I couldn’t have been more further from the truth on the other side of this long island. Excellent sleuthing by all, Vanderbilt’s Martini & Rossi it is! I think I’ll have a drink…

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 21 2019 Casey DeNicola 8:33 AM

I didn’t answer this,because I wasn’t sure of my answers.I originally thought B’hampton because of ped bridge.But ruled it out because of mall style parking lot lights and bank building in distance.I did kind of remember this revival being held at Roosevelt raceway and thought building in background might be Meadowbrook hospital(NC med center now).Anyway,whether I know answer or not,I love Mystery photos!Great feature Howard.

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 20 2019 Bob Swanson 7:53 PM

Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup, held by Cornelius Vanderbilt Jr. and race winner Harry Carter. The race was run at Roosevelt Raceway on June 18-19 1960, Carter won driving a Stanguellini Formula Junior the S logo on his racing suit is the company logo. Bob Swanson

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 20 2019 Dick Gorman 6:04 PM

Mystery Foto #20… The race was the Cornelius Vanderbilt IV Cup Race. The trophy was of course The Vanderbilt Cup. The two people holding the cup are Cornelius Vanderbilt IV to the left and winning driver Harry Carter. The photo was taken at Roosevelt Raceway on June 19, 1960. The course used a portion of the parking facilities and access roads for the harness racing track. The “S” logo on Carter’s overall was the symbol for the Stanguellini race cars. WFYI radio was based in Mineola.
I have always thought that the choice of Formula Junior race cars for this event was a very odd choice. Many of these drivers were seasoned pros used to very fast cars, but the cars they were driving that day were nothing more than an “entry level” machines in which neophyte drivers could learn racing skills. The cars used inexpensive mechanical components from ordinary automobiles. They were powered by 1000 cc motors. The were not particularly fast. and were not a professional class of race car at all.

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 20 2019 frank femenias 2:33 PM

I have only few answers. Bridgehampton Racing Circuit, Noyak, NY. The victory group was standing on the main straight of the race course by the pit area (left side of photo where the racers are parked). Photographer is facing NE towards the Martini & Rossi pedestrian overpass. The Chevron overpass is behind the photographer on the same straightaway. Based on clothing, microphone, hair styles, lamp posts, this photo was taken in the early ‘60s. The “S” is possibly for SCCA. Could that be Willie K’s nephew Cornelius Vanderbilt IV presenting the cup? Waiting patiently for this week’s answers. HURRY UP!

The race course is now entirely occupied by the Bridge Golf Course. Map link—>
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1396j0_672hYkvbcNFJInbc1mXNJspD9f&ll=40.9829402530793,-72.34230764357858&z=15

Cockpit view video while racing on The Bridge—>
https://youtu.be/UnT4d_Mt6kg

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 20 2019 Robert Saunders 2:32 PM

Race: 1960 Vanderbilt Cup Race
Trophy: Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup
People holding the trophy: Cornelius Vanderbilt IV, Henry Carter
Photo place & date: Roosevelt Raceway, June 1960
“S” logo: Stanguellini. An Italian maker of small sports cars.
WFYI base: Mineola
Orientation of the photographer? No idea

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 20 2019 Steven Vilardi 8:09 AM

I wonder if that painting was used as a backdrop because the train was number 999. Turn 999 over and it is 666 the sign of the Devil! It has been a long time since I have seen that movie but wasn’t that meeting a turning point of the Organization?

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May 19 2019 Dave Russo 8:25 PM

This stretch of LIMP from Raff Ave to Weatbury Ave, and a bit over Westbury Ave before the ballfields is a very unique and easily accessible route.

I definitely recommend going in late winter / very early spring as the thorns make things a lot less fun and visible!

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #7 Mineola & Carle Place

May 19 2019 S. Berliner, III 5:23 PM

Recognized Cornelius V., IV, so it had to be the “phoney” 1960 race at Roosevelt Field (I vas dere, Cholly, even to being on the course in my XK-120M Jag afterwards),  I usually work from memory but, this time, I cheated big time!  Look at the course map, attached.  We must be at the finish line looking (LI) west at the Martini & Rossi bridge on Sunday, 19 June.  C.V.,IV is handing his cup to Henry Carter, driver of the winning Stanguellini FIAT.  Carter’s “S” badge (took me forever to find it!) stands for Stanguellini (also attached).  FYI, WFYI has been in Indianapolis since 15 Mar 1988 but was in Mineola at 1520 on your AM dial ‘way back.  I vaguely remember a tall antenna atop a building across the north plaza from the Mineola station - anyone?  ‘Nuf cheating?  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 19 2019 Tim Helck 1:11 PM

Thanks to Greg Anderson and Jerry Jordak for clearing up this mystery. The painting as it appears in the movie scenes has subdued colors which are similar to the color pallet of much of my grandfather’s early work. However the pictures of the painting in its current state show its correct pallet, and it clearly is not a Helck.

The artist, Lumen Martin Winters, executed many murals for public buildings, including the United Nations General Assembly building. You can learn more about him here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_Martin_Winter.

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May 19 2019 Walt Gosden 12:29 PM

Just so nice to see the father /son activity - the memories being made and shared with all of us. SO few people now take an interest in what is around them to notice significant places and pieces in time , and just rely upon and take for granted that “someone” will record it for them so they can have it when it suits them.

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #7 Mineola & Carle Place

May 19 2019 Walt Gosden 12:18 PM

I imagine the low price received for the painting was due mainly because of its size, very very large! I have a b & w sketch done by Peter Helck that I bought from Austin Clark at least 4 decades ago that also has a train in the backround - Peter used a large scale Buddy L toy train set for the scale and proportion of his art work and had one of these Buddy L ‘outdoor railroads’ on the wall of his studio . When I visited him with Austin I saw it and told Peter ” hey I have one of those” we both enjoyed that and spoke about how well Buddy L toys reproduced the proportions etc of the Baldwin locomotive in the 1920s. I am taking my sketch with also has three old cars in the foreground on a road scene ( curved dash Olds, Old 16 etc) to be reframed as the paper is starting to wrinkle and it will eventually be sold as I just have to much stuff and no place to display it.

From Update: The Hunt for the "Godfather" Train Painting is Over

May 19 2019 Russell Stone 11:03 AM

While strictly a technical novice regarding these striking classics, I love their period beauty.

From Close-ups of Two 2017 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance Winners

May 19 2019 LMK 8:59 AM

Love this series ....Thanks again for the effort taken to compile this series…

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #7 Mineola & Carle Place

May 19 2019 Gary 8:36 AM

Mystery #20
Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Formula Junior SCCA race
Winner’s Circle, Roosevelt Field road course June 19, 1960
CV IV and winner Harry Carter in photo
Carter raced a Stanguellini, presumed “S”

Photog could have been standing on the TV remote van, slight elevation over crowd.  Possible but very unlikely he was balanced on the front wheels of this racecar.

Regarding the snooty, back-handed comment in your own report…
I assure you this race was taken very seriously by Masters Carter, Wallace, Truitt, Davis, and Flink who, with their own cars and money, defeated teams with well-known hired-gun drivers.  For SCCA amateur drivers to race against the Rodriguez brothers, Walt Hansgen, and Rodger Ward was a great opportunity;  then to defeat them, amazing to think about nearly sixty years later.  Westfield Walt and Ward had a history of winning in northeast, Lime Rock events of this time period.  They were not celebrity fish out of water.  Way to go Carter, Truitt, and Lew Flink!

Thank you for posting the photo.
Gary
ELVA / Scorpion club
elleva.net

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 18 2019 Steve Lucas 5:55 PM

This photo was taken on June 19, 1960 in the parking lot of Roosevelt Raceway (harness track) as Cornelius Vanderbilt IV (nephew of Willie K.) is presenting the Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup to Harry Carter who had just won the 1960 Vanderbilt Cup Race. The “S” logo represents Stanguellini, the manufacturer of Carter’s racer. WFYI, at 1520 on the dial, was an AM radio station based in Mineola. I believe we are looking west along the straightaway with the Martini & Rossi pedestrian bridge in the background. Way off in the distance could be the Franklin National Bank building.

From Mystery Friday Foto #20 Solved: The End of the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race

May 18 2019 Don Coker 12:19 PM

New to your blog, Howard. Love this Helck letter series! Always been a fan of his work and this gave me more insight. Thanks!

From Helck Family Collection: Peter Helck's Illustrated Wagner Envelopes

May 18 2019 Tom 8:20 AM

Clear, sharp pictures, nice job guys!

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #6 East Williston

May 18 2019 Tom 8:15 AM

Nice location for a show and the weather cooperated.

From Highlights from the Regimental Activities NAFI Auto Show at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy

May 17 2019 Steve Tremulis 11:49 PM

The “S” is the Stanguellini logo on winning driver Henry Carter’s racing suit, Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY, June 19, 1960! The Vanderbilt Cup revival put on by the New York chapter of the SCCA.

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