Dec 15 2014

Mystery Foto #98 Solved:The #4 Chadwick on the Ellison Ave RR Bridge During 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race


Frank Femenias forwarded this weekend's Mystery Foto that he discovered while searching the Detroit Public Library's National Automotive Collection.

Answers to the Mystery Foto questions:

-Identify the Vanderbilt Cup Race

1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

-Identify the race car, the driver and mechanician

The #4 "Big Six" six-cylinder 60-HP Chadwick driven by Willie Haupt and mechancian E.A. Lindquist

-Identify the location in the Mystery Foto.

The Ellison Avenue (Road) Railroad Bridge in Westbury

Congrats to Robert Greenhaus, Joseph Osterle, Steve Lucas, Greg O., Chris, Wayne Carroll Petersen, Art Kleiner (with below Kleiner's Korner), Frank Femenias and Ariejan Bos for correctly identifying the Mystery Foto.

Enjoy,

Howard Kroplick


Closeups


Another View from the Ellison Avenue Bridge

Note the grandstand on the left and the banner hanging over the road in the background.  The banner likely provided a warning about the upcoming bridge.


Pre-Race Photos

The Chadwick is parked on the right in front of the newly constructed 5,000 capacity grandstand. The officials' box and press box  can be seen on the left.

At the starting line with the #5 Mercedes driven by William Luttgen, the #15 Matheson driven by Louis Chevrolet and the #7 Matheson driven by James Ryall.  .


On the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

The Chadwick started the race very strong and led during laps four through seven. The Newbridge Road Hotel is on the right.


Central Park (Bethpage)

During Lap seven, the Chadwick developed a faulty magneto. and fell behind George Robertson's Locomobile by 35 minutes.

The battle between the Chadwick and the Locomobile as captured by artist Peter Helck. The Chadwick was still running when the race was stopped and finished 10th.


Kleiner's Korner

Specifications of the 1908 entries

The Ellison Avenue Bridge still in the news.



Comments

Dec 12 2014 Robert Greenhaus 5:27 PM

1.  Identify the Vanderbilt Cup Race:    1908.

2.  Identify the race car, the driver and mechanician:    Car #4 Chadwick (USA), driven by Willie Haupt with E.A. Lindquist, machanician.

3.  Identify the location in the Mystery Foto:    The bridge over the LIRR tracks at Ellison Avenue in Westbury.

Dec 12 2014 Joseph Oesterle 7:24 PM

Chadwick/Lindquest, 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race, heading south over the Ellison Avenue Railroad Bridge in Westbury. 

 

Dec 12 2014 Steve Lucas 11:01 PM

That’s William Haupt (driver) and his mechanician Lindquist in their Chadwick “Big Six” racer heading south on the Ellison Road (Avenue) bridge over the L. I. R. R. during the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race.

Dec 13 2014 Greg O. 7:11 PM

-Identify the Vanderbilt Cup Race

1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

-Identify the race car, the driver and mechanician

#4 60 HP Chadwick driven by William Haupt- Mechanician: Lindquist

-Identify the location in the Mystery Foto.

Long Island Rail Road Bridge on Ellison Road in Westbury

Dec 13 2014 Chris 9:31 PM

1908
#4 Chadwick driven by William Haupt, Mechanician ?
Ellison Ave. RailRoad Bridge, Westbury

Dec 14 2014 Wayne Carroll Petersen 1:39 AM

Driver: William Haupt, riding mechanic: Lindquist, 60 hp Chadwick, 1908 Vanderbilt Cup. 10th place

Dec 14 2014 Art Kleiner 9:13 AM

-Identify the Vanderbilt Cup Race
1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

-Identify the race car, the driver and mechanician
#4 Chadwick, driven by William Haupt and mechanician Linquist.  Finished 10th.

-Identify the location in the Mystery Foto.
Ellison Avenue bridge, Westbury.

See Kleiner’s Korner documentation.

Dec 15 2014 frank femenias 3:02 AM

1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race with William Haupt driving the #4 Chadwick 60hp, the first supercharged racer, on top of the Ellison Ave RR bridge in Westbury. Mechanician: Lindquist. Looks like the rear wheels have just begun to go airborne. The current bridge is being replaced for some astronomical amount, that’s already been covered by Howard. http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/newsday_lirr_bridge_replacement_proposed_in_westbury

Dec 15 2014 Ariejan Bos 6:59 AM

The DPL digital collection is like a treasure hunt. This beautiful picture shows Willie Haupt and his mechanician Lindquist on their 6 cylinder Chadwick passing Ellison Railroad Bridge during the Vanderbilt Cup race of 1908. Although they completed the race, they finished 10th and last.

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