Feb 13 2017

Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara’s Film Debut in “The Stain” Filmed at Petit Trianon


Gary Hammond challenged you to find a direct link between American silent film star and stage actress Theda Bara (1885-1955) and the Long Island Motor Parkway.

Mystery Foto question:

  • What role did the Motor Parkway play in the career  of Theda Bara, one of the most popular film stars of her era? Hint: Billed under the name Theodosia De Coppet, Theda Bara made her film debut as an extra in 1914.

Theda Bara (1885- 1955) made her film debut at the age of 29 in The Stain in 1914 as an extra. The film was shot in New Jersey and at Petit Trianon, located at the eastern terminus of the Motor Parkway in Lake Ronkonkoma. Her look and amazing eyes caught the attention of director Frank Powell who cast her as the lead in his next film A Fool There Was, which became a major hit.


From the book: A Million and One Nights: A History of the Motion Picture by Terry Tamsaye:

The direction of A Fool There Was fell to Frank Powell, a graduate of Biograph. Powell had recently completed The Stain, written by Forrest Halsey, for Pathe.

While Powell was making the Stain on Miss Theodosia Goodman, of some stage experience under the name of De Coppet, applied for the part. Powell was impressed. The next day he took her with the company to work in exteriors at the Pettit Trianon, Lake Ronkonoma, New York. Powell pondered deeply. He put her into the background away from the camera. He did not want her recognized and classified as a mere extra.

When the casting of A Fool There Was began...., Powell demurred and presented the unknown Miss De Coppet. He evolved for her the name Theda Bara under which she was to attain world fame, "Theda" being an obviouse contraction of Theodosia, while "Bara" was derived from a relative's name of Barringer.

A Fool There Was became a box office hit of January 1915. Theda Bara was made famous overnight. This success, true to rule, ordained a career of vampiring for the demure and circumspect Miss Goodman.


Comments (6)

Congrats and kudos to Dick Gorman, Tim Ivers, Greg O., Sam Berliner III, Steve Lucas,  and Art Kleiner (see Kleiner's Korner) for correctly identifying thelink between Theda Bara and the Long Island Motor Parkway.

Enjoy,

Howard Kroplick


Theda Bara


The Woman With The Hungry Eyes: The Life & Films Of Theda Bara (2006)

A discussion of Theda Bara in The Stain begins at 11:40.


Theda Bara in the 1917 film Cleopatra + Interview


Theda Bara in the 1917 film Cleopatra  and an Interview


The Stain (1914)

There are only two known existing prints of The Stain, one in Australia and one in the George Eastman Museum in Rochester.

I have requested the Moving Image Department of the museum to provide still photos of Petit Trianon that were used in the film. I am hoping they will also provide a film clip.

Theda Bara, billed as Theodosia De Coppet, had a very brief role as a nun.


A Fool There Was (1915)


After her role in The Stain, the renamed Theda Bara became a star as a vamp "who uses her charms to seduce and corrupt a moral married Wall Street lawyer." Theda Bara can be seen as her most scandalous at 56:48 .


Kleiner's Korner (Submitted by Art Kleiner)

The Bible on Silent Film, 2013

Silentera.com

The Stain

Nitrateville

IMDB



Comments

Feb 11 2017 Dick Gorman 12:27 PM

Mystery Foto# 6…. I can’t really connect Theda Bara directly to the Motor Parkway but I do find that she made her screen debut in a silent movie called “the Stain” cast as an extra in the role of a Gun Moll. And this movie was shot on location at Lake Ronkonkoma. Ronkonkoma being the eastern most terminus of the Motor Parkway.
Whether that is the connection or not remains to be seen in our Monday night reveal. She had three different names over time…Theodosia Goodman, Theodosia De Cappett and of course Theda Bara.

Feb 12 2017 Tim Ivers 12:55 PM

A short movie “The Stain” in which Theda Bara appeared as an extra featured location scenes at the Petit Trianon at Lake Ronkoma.

Feb 12 2017 Greg O. 5:57 PM

The only thing I could find was her debut movie ‘The Stain’ in 1914 was filmed in and around Lake Ronkonkoma, most likely on portions of the LIMP and Petit Trianon.

Feb 12 2017 S. Berliner, III 6:11 PM

“The Stain”, shot in :Lake Ronkonkoma - I assume there is a scene (possibly a chase) going in or out on LI on the LIMP, or at Petit Trianon,  but can’t find a print.  Sam, III

Feb 12 2017 Steve Lucas 8:29 PM

Film director Frank Powell, while working for Pathe Freres, was filming “The Stain”, most of which was being shot at a rented studio in Fort Lee, NJ. The “on location” or exterior shots for the film were done at the Petit Trianon, the eastern terminus of the LIMP. Although she had done some stage work, “The Stain” was Theda Bara’s (real name Theodosia Goodman) first film. She had been using the stage name Theodosia DeCoppett at the time.

Feb 12 2017 Art Kleiner 10:39 PM

What role did the Motor Parkway play in the career of Theda Bara, one of the most popular film stars of her era?  Theda Bara, then Theodosia (Goodman) DeCoppett in 1914 portrayed a gang moll in the Frank Powell directed “The Stain”.  Filming was done near Lake Ronkonkoma so I would assume the Motor Parkway was used by the crew to get there. 

Hint: Billed under the name Theodosia DeCoppett, Theda Bara made her film debut as an extra in 1914.

Feb 14 2017 Gary Hammond 10:24 PM

Howard,
Next time you communicate with the Eastman House ask about the provenance of their copy of The Stain.  I could be wrong, but I believe the copy that they have is the only known copy, and was the one found in Australia.
Gary

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