Vanderbilt Cup Races

I believe this is my grandfather George Roberson and Glenn Eldridge winners of 1908 Vanderbilt cup. Not sure the year or location.  Thank you Howard.

-Identify the “team” in Old 16

Joe Tracy Al Poole

-Identify the Vanderbilt Cup Races in which this team drove together

1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race, the 1905 American Elimination Race, the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race, the 1906 American Elimination Race, and the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

-Kudos questions: What was being celebrated? Where was the photo taken? Hint: It was at a Nassau County private school.
I believe this to be October 9, 1954 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the first Vanderbilt Cup Race, but that took place at the Garden City Hotel and Mineola Fairgrounds, and the hint is saying I’m incorrect about location…so I’ll wait for the answer on this one.

its Joe Tracy behind the wheel and George Robertson Riding mechanic. as both men were drivers I do not know that they ever ‘‘teamed’’ together. Tracy won the ‘06 Elimination race and placed 10th in the Vanderbilt cup that same year. Robertson won the 1908 Vanderbilt cup.
the young boy by the hood of OLD 16 seems mystified by the 2 Amazing Gentlemen.

I’m guessing that the driver is Joe Tracy, who competed in the Vanderbilt Cup Races of 1904-1906. His mechanician was Al Poole. Could they be celebrating the 50th anniversary of the 1906 race, when Old 16 (then #9) recorded the fastest lap but finished 10th due to tire trouble? No idea about where they are; could it be the Waldorf School in Garden City?

Source of my information is this website and the Audrain Museum in Newport, which I visited yesterday and which has the car (a Locomobile) on display.

That’s Joe Tracy and Al Poole who, as driver and mechanician, participated in the 1904, 1905, and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races and the 1905 and 1906 American Elimination Trials. Since the date of the photo is 1956, maybe they were celebrating the 50th. anniversary of the 1906 races. And while we’re guessing, since the V. C. R. headquarters was at the Garden City Hotel, maybe the event took place about 1/4 mile west of there at St. Paul’s School on the corner of Stewart Ave. and Rockaway Ave.

It’s Joe Tracy and George Robertson but hanged if I can find the background.  As I recall, Howard reported that Tracy was asked to go easy on the car and instead he flogged it (perhaps it was George who complained of that)!  Sam. III

Joe Tracy driver, and Al Poole mechanician team, raced in the 1904-1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races, before the Motor Parkway was built and used as a racetrack. The Tracy/Poole team raced with Locomobiles and a Royal Tourist in 1904. Old 16 won the first U.S. VCR race driven by George Robertson/Glenn Ethridge.

Dick Gorman:
Mystery Foto #42…. The team shown in Old 16 was Joe Tracy and George Robertson.
I believe that the date that they drove together is 1908. Couldn’t find and answer to the last question.

Dean Zwicker:
Mystery Foto #42 appears to be Joe Tracy driving, with possibly Al Poole as passenger.  They raced in the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race.
Dean Zwicker

Mystery Foto #42, Addendum. For what it’s worth I know that you identified the two men as Joe Tracy and Al Poole but a piece of reference material which I found identifies this pic as Joe Tracy and George Robertson in Old 16. Not sure where this reference came from.

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Howard Kroplick

Dick, Al and George did look similar. The back of the photo had the caption of Joe Tracy and Al Poole.

My, that web page sure does look familiar <http://sbiii.com/limpvcup.html - ¾ of the way down>!  HA - it never even occurred to me to look on my own site.  Since I have no provenance, that proves nothing.  If Mark is still active with, perhaps he can chime in on this.  Sam, III